September 22, 2026

What would you give up to work some where your values matched the job?

In this episode of Capital Conversations, host Steve Robertson sits down with Jason Ciccolallo of Orbis Investment Management, whose 35-year career has taken him from unit pricing in the middle of a 1990s recession to 18 years at one of the industry's most values-driven investment firms. Jason shares why he took a pay cut to join Orbis, the simple exercise he used to define exactly what he wanted from an employer, and why he believes being kind, not just nice, is the key to developing great talent.

Jason also opens up about the mentors who shaped his career, the concept of “Client Alpha,” and his advice for anyone starting out: don't try to be anybody else.

Tune in to hear:

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●       Why Jason took a pay cut to join Orbis

●       The three-page exercise he used to define his idealcareer

●       Why "being kind, not nice" is central todeveloping great talent

●       How Jason built his client team's culture and identityfrom scratch

●       His advice for anyone starting out in the industry